#And crossdressers and whatever other category reactionaries try to shove people into to claim they aren't trans as being trans

[bijoumikhawal]

I think a part of the logical and materialist problem with "Why can't he just be a feminine cis guy" is that there's a certain level of femininity a feminine "cis" guy expresses where they are functionally going to be regarded as trans anyway. Like. Very few places will look at a man with long hair and women's clothes or makeup and regard him as a "man"... because of transmisogyny. Even if he, internally, feels himself to be a man, his idea of being a man is fundamentally unacceptable, and even if he says he's a man, he will still be treated like he's trans, and specifically like a trans woman, until he proves otherwise. I and several other guys I've met have literally had this happen to us because someone looked at us, asked if we were men, and physically recoiled upon being told yes, or something else of a similar nature, because to them all we had done was confirm we were transfem, even though we aren't. You can, in essence, get out of it by giving proof, but to do so you usually have to enact transmisogyny. And even if you do that, you are still not considered a "man".

In order to "just" be a feminine cis guy this hypothetical man has to still in essence closet himself and restrain his gender presentation. You would also need to violently use transmisogyny to avoid the social consequences of effeminacy. The very idea shows a lack of understanding for how many "gnc men" function in the world. The one restraining the gnc man in the hypothetical is more likely to be the one who grossly oversimplifies things to being ""just" a feminine cis guy". They are not providing alternatives or theory for the hypothetical person they bring up, or giving the desperately needed and often absent space to accept and embrace fluidity in gender for those people- some of whom will turn out to be trans, without any ambiguity about it. In fact, the very argument is specifically brought up to choke off that fluidity and exploration. No one is being "protected".

Am I making sense.